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The Whole Toyota Debacle.......Your Thoughts.

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javeryh:
I drive a 2009 Rav4 Sport - 6 cylinders.  I love it.  Luckily, my car was not recalled.  I don't think the recall will have any effect as to whether I buy Toyota again.

TOK:
There is not any car I've ever heard of that can't be put in park while its moving. They have a prawl that keeps the transmission from being damaged. Makes a hell of a racket though. Certainly every car can be put in neutral.

Car & Driver did a test in the last issue and every car they tested, including a 400+ HP Roush Mustang could be stopped at full throttle by putting on the brakes. Nissan/Infinity cars already have the gas over-ride the government is mandating. The G35 or whatever it was they tested stopped in pretty much the same distance full throttle or not.

My opinion on this is that its possibly something wrong with the drive by wire system, but is only compounded by absolutely idiotic driver error. If you have to to make phone calls and have a discussion about the problem, but don't have the foresight to throw the car out of gear, even if it means bouncing it off the rev limiter until it blows up, you shouldn't have a license to begin with.

People are now piling on to Toyotas problem, including a guy that slammed into a stopped car going 90 mph and was found negligent... The Toyota he was driving didn't even have the drive by wire setup that is common in all the other cases.

Fordman:

--- Quote from: TOK on March 04, 2010, 12:32:42 pm ---There is not any car I've ever heard of that can't be put in park while its moving. They have a prawl that keeps the transmission from being damaged. Makes a hell of a racket though. Certainly every car can be put in neutral.

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Most cars made today are software controlled in the valve body keeping the transmission from going into park when at speeds above 3mph. This saves the hardware in the gearbox. Yes, it should have been able to go into neutral but something else was wrong preventing it from going into neutral. I dont know their software, but it should be industry standard that lets it go into neutral. Even though you put it into park at speeds above 3mph, the valve body reads the rpm - speed and then prevents the clutch shifting into park. That software controls the transmission more so than the shifter.

Fordman

ark_ader:

--- Quote from: Silas (son of Silas) on March 04, 2010, 09:32:50 am ---
--- Quote from: ark_ader on March 04, 2010, 07:55:38 am ---I support American products and I buy Chevy.  :applaud:

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Well, I guess you're an American living in America so you get 'proper' Chevy's?

Have you seen the steaming pile of Daewoo crap that gets badged and flogged as Chevy in the UK?

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Well that kinda hits a sore spot mate - while yes I am an American I also reside in the UK. - I also had a Daewoo in the US.  Then I found out Daewoo went bankrupt 6 months after I bought it.  Also the extended warranty was not covered by Daewoo.  So I fully understand that problem.  I also buy Chevy especially S10 and I will continue to buy Chevy as it is real American Quality.  Not Korean, Japanese or Chinese crappy made cars.  Just don't get me started on Honda.  While I'm on about cars - the UK make crap cars too.  :P

Ginsu Victim:

--- Quote from: ark_ader on March 04, 2010, 02:30:46 pm ---I also buy Chevy especially S10 and I will continue to buy Chevy as it is real American Quality.

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Something run by the government can never be called "quality"

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