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Just a heads up... Tron is on tonight......

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Howard_Casto:

--- Quote from: RayB on March 04, 2010, 03:31:04 am ---So in other words, you're fan of George-Lucasing movies.   ;)

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No I'm a fan of fixing movies using the original source material.  As I said, it was the bad compositing that was at fault and that can be fixed easily asuming the original film still exists. 

Ginsu Victim:
I like that stuff, though. I got mad when I found out my Raiders of the Lost Ark DVD (which is now called Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark...ugh) had the reflection removed from the scene when he's face to face with the cobra.

The special edition of Star Wars is a complete abomination, so I'm glad to have the laserdisc versions (I still haven't picked up the individual releases that have the original versions).

ark_ader:

--- Quote from: Ginsu Victim on March 04, 2010, 04:01:20 pm ---I like that stuff, though. I got mad when I found out my Raiders of the Lost Ark DVD (which is now called Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark...ugh) had the reflection removed from the scene when he's face to face with the cobra.

The special edition of Star Wars is a complete abomination, so I'm glad to have the laserdisc versions (I still haven't picked up the individual releases that have the original versions).

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I just picked up the Korean version of the SW Trilogy on VHS at a local thrift store still shrink wrapped.

Howard_Casto:

--- Quote from: Ginsu Victim on March 04, 2010, 04:01:20 pm ---I like that stuff, though. I got mad when I found out my Raiders of the Lost Ark DVD (which is now called Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark...ugh) had the reflection removed from the scene when he's face to face with the cobra.

The special edition of Star Wars is a complete abomination, so I'm glad to have the laserdisc versions (I still haven't picked up the individual releases that have the original versions).

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Well I get that.  Some people prefer inferior end product because of it's mystic "nostalgic" value.  It puts me in the mind of the episode of everybody loves raymond when ray discovers that his dad has never used the very espensive cd player he bought him that replaces all his old (and destroyed) jazz records.  His dad bitches the whole time about how they are not the same even though they sound great and at the end of the show robert satisfies their dad by buying the records at pawn shops.  His dad puts it on, you can't even recognize the tune due to all the distortion/warping and scratches and yet his dad says "now that's beautiful!" still adiment that the records sound better. 

While most of the star wars special edition edits are indeed terrible (because they alter the plot, not because of the visual differences) stuff like getting rid of the reflection in indy is a case of fixing an error that slipped through years ago.  The fact that some people prefer the original is what I will affectionately call from now on the "Frank Barone Effect"  The scrateches make it worse friend, you just can't admit it to yourself because when you first heard it years ago, the scratches were there.

Hitting closer to home, it reminds me of people here who says things like.  "I like my cab to have scratches on the glass and cigarette burns on the cp, it gives it character."  What?  No it doesn't, it gives it damage!  Being able to live with minor imperfections is one thing, but saying you pefer them is another.

So to bring it home, seeing the reflection in the glass doesn't ruin the move because it's a classic and it is a very minor error, but leaving the error in isn't helping the film in any way.  But that's a minor error anyway.  In Tron nearly every other scene, especially the long shots have some just terrible compositing going on.  Fixing it would go a long way towards giving this film some legs to stand on for a newer generation.  Personally I think the story is engaging enough to hold most people's attention, but with the newer generation's automatic dismissal of anything that doesn't look flawless, I can see the rough visuals throwing some people off.

Ginsu Victim:
To me, the film is the film, warts and all. I like seeing the limitations of the time.

I would be super pissed if they replaced all the effects shots in The Evil Dead with new "improved" ones.

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