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Ginsu Victim:

--- Quote from: sk8ersublime on February 24, 2010, 07:30:08 pm ---To the guys who didnt like it the idea and think im out to make some money....kinda hard to do in my basement when im pretty much the only one who plays the cab, sorry.

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Well, I didn't say you were (though you're new-ish (you don't post much) and we don't know you yet), but someone else could read how to do it, use it for nefarious reasons, and then we've helped them.
sk8ersublime:

--- Quote from: Ginsu Victim on February 24, 2010, 07:48:46 pm ---
--- Quote from: sk8ersublime on February 24, 2010, 07:30:08 pm ---To the guys who didnt like it the idea and think im out to make some money....kinda hard to do in my basement when im pretty much the only one who plays the cab, sorry.

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Well, I didn't say you were (though you're new-ish (you don't post much) and we don't know you yet), but someone else could read how to do it, use it for nefarious reasons, and then we've helped them.

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yea Ive been coming to this site ever since I got that itch to build a cab, just never took the time to ask questions, which is why i have a shotty cab now....haha..

But im trying to take my time with things now and make something nice, which is why you will see a lot of stuff from me lately.

I understand the issues and again...sorry haha
Haze:

--- Quote from: versapak on February 24, 2010, 03:48:56 pm ---
--- Quote from: Ginsu Victim on February 24, 2010, 03:35:16 pm ---It's one thing for us to use it for our own selfish needs, but it's entirely different for others to profit off of it.

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And who is talking about making a profit?


My kids love putting quarters in to play games. They can easily just open up the coin door to grab them out again, but putting them in is part of the experience.

What difference does it make if the quarter is put in before or after game selection?

None.

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To your kids, none, you're exactly right, that's why we don't consider NOT supporting this feature to be a big issue, there is no legitimate reason to need it for your average user.  Your kids know when they can insert coins because you told them and if they do it wrong, you can easily give them the coins back until they learn.

For a commercial on-location cab it's essential.  Customers aren't your kids, with real customers they'll insert coins in the menu, and wonder why they don't transfer, they'll insert a coin in a game, quit the game, and wonder where their coin went.  As I've said, the development team don't want to see MAME being used in this way, so by not supporting such features, and discouraging discussion of such features the ability for people to use the software in this way is limited.

Your kids don't care, and at the same time it prevents abuse of the software in a commerical environment.  It's a win for you (and your kids), and it's a win for the development team.  The only losers are the ones looking to try and abuse the software for profit.

Arcades are struggling, and people replacing legitimate arcade cabinets with illegal multi-game cabinets isn't helping the cause.  Mamedev want *nothing* to do with that so discourage features which make it possible.

CheffoJeffo:

--- Quote from: sk8ersublime on February 24, 2010, 07:30:08 pm ---I vote for a mod to just close this thread since people are getting so bent out of shape about it.

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As the OP, you should be able to lock it.

FWIW, I don't think there was much in the way of people getting bent out of shape. Although people seem to take the talk about rules as being bent out of shape, it isn't. saint's rules and the mods are what keeps this place a great spot to come.

If one of the first posts had been a link to one of the prior discussions (which I was too lazy to look for initially), then the subsequent:


--- Quote ---Follow the rules, noob.
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--- Quote ---Rulez, I don need no stinkin rulez!
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--- Quote ---Ya! You're all breaking the law anyway!
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--- Quote ---Shaddap and get offa my lawn
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--- Quote ---MAMEDevs are full of ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---
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--- Quote ---Down with the man!
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--- Quote ---Aww, not this crap again.
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--- Quote --- You're a hypocrite and a liar!
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--- Quote ---I have a thoughtful question ...
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--- Quote ---Do a search, noob!
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could have been avoided.

But it was all polite and good-spirited, which is why we didn't get a saint-bomb dropped into the thread ... and we got to hear about Moon-Pies, which are always popular in arcade circles.

Play on!
shateredsoul:
Out of curiosity.. has anyone ever seen a mame machine being used for profit? I'm rather new here, but I've heard about some guy having done that in the past? and being busted? apparently he posted in this forum but was frowned upon by the community?

other than that, have any of you ever seen a mame machine out in public? and if you did, what did you do?

If a shopkeeper had a machine in his store, but playing is free and you don't charge them to play (so no quarters needed).. is that still illegal?

I have never seen a mame machine in the US being used for profit, in Mexico I remember even as a kid seeing arcades being used (one in particular had a bunch of NES games, and a timer, it was pretty neat actually).
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