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Xiaou2:

--- Quote ---Whether from the motor or the arm, it needs power to move, and it needs to move to click.  The drive is getting power.
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 As a tech, Ive ran into a few external drives in which a component failed inside the device,
causing improper voltages going to the drive... resulting in it being useless.  Spins up, but
wont read/write/detect.

 You can test this easily with a multimeter.  First at the power supply... and if that passes,
then at the rear pins of the drives power connector.


--- Quote ---FWIW, quality SLC flash devices (bare chips) generally specify 50-100 years retention at 25C going down to 10-25 years retention at 85C.  These are the guaranteed parameters.
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 There is no such Guarantee.  Partly due to the fact that the tech has Not been in place for 25yrs.
Also, Ive read reports of people reading and writing constantly on purpose, killed flash drives in
less than a day of time.  Of course, there isnt much reason to argue about it - as flash drives of
any real size will cost a Lot more than other means.

 
--- Quote ---Quality CD media stored in a controlled environment (dark, room temp, low but non-zero humidiity) should last 10 years or more.
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 I hadnt opened the CDRs I had bought over 7yrs ago, in room temperate, in a room with
blocked off windows (no sunlight, only indoor lighting).   When I finally did open them,
the coating flake off on my fingers from the lightest touch.

 The Discs they use to make your CDs and DVDs for commercial sales... and not the same as
the ones they sell at the stores for PC burners.  A commercial DVD probably will last a lifetime -
unless you scratch it badly.  Not the same for consumer burnable discs.


--- Quote ---All these specs assume you have a quality burner, which most people don't.  For your cheapo $35 CD/DVD burner, quarter the lifetimes.
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Heh.  Thats Scammer Info  IMOP.  Prove it with any form of Logic.

Hoopz:
Hmmm....

Monmotha v. X.  I'm putting all my money on Monmotha being right and being able to prove it unlike our resident know-it-all.  X never proves it.  He just blusters and tells people if they don't like it not to read it and that the masses here want to keep him quiet.  Seriously, can you document what you say AND have it be from a credible source?

Monmotha is a tremendous help to others here with (seemingly) obscure technical data that's always on point.  X just likes to talk about how he worked in an arcade so he knows everything about it. Funny how being a change boy makes a genius even smarter. Now he's a hard drive tech too!



Xiaou2:

 I was a change guy for only a few weeks.  Then I became the store
manager for 3 years.  Which involves well more than counting money...
and included teaching myself how to fix 42 arcade & mechanical redemption
games.

 As for SSD last-ability, and almost all last-ability that is listed by MFGs,
are general specs that are guesstimates based on percentage of usage,
ideal conditions, and short range tests.  Rarely ever long range test,
(how could a company test a drive for 25yrs before its sale?!), or pure
factual results.


--- Quote --- Monmotha is a tremendous help to others here
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 In case you didnt notice, I gave plenty of helpful advice throughout my
many years here..  Including in this very Thread!, for which me and
your buddy agree on HD backup as the better solution.

 Instead of throwing your hate for me around... maybe you should
concern yourself with much more grown up things in life.  You will live
longer, and happier that way.

Hoopz:
 :blah:  X, I don't hate you.  You aren't worth time or effort like that.  I just don't think you're the god that you claim to be. 

My suggestion is both physical and cloud storage.  With Google docs taking any type of file now, dropbox being a great asset, and other sites that can take multiple gigs of pictures with no fees, there's no reason not to use some of these services.   Granted, no for sensitive information, but for general off-site storage, it's a free, relatively safe and secure path to choose.

shmokes:

--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on February 22, 2010, 03:26:26 am ---

--- Quote ---All these specs assume you have a quality burner, which most people don't.  For your cheapo $35 CD/DVD burner, quarter the lifetimes.
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Heh.  Thats Scammer Info  IMOP.  Prove it with any form of Logic.



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It's not really a fair challenge cos you are limiting him to logic and not evidence, when the obvious method of proof here would be citation rather than argument.   ;D

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