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I want a game room! Should I build an UNDERGROUND LAIR or move?

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Cakemeister:

--- Quote from: javeryh on February 10, 2010, 02:45:24 pm ---The wife is on board.  She knows it's something I've always wanted AND I decided to trade something for the rights to build the room.  I've been on the Giants season ticket waiting list since 1989.  This past year they FINALLY called!  I was so excited until I heard the ridiculous cost - they wanted $15,000 for the PSL (one time fee) and $8,000 per year for the tickets!!  My lovely wife gave me the green light to get the tickets but I told her in exchange for the tickets I wanted to build a nice home theater with a mini bar and gameroom in some hypothetical house some day.  Plus, I don't have $23,000 just laying around.  So no tickets but hopefully I'll have a 100" HD screen to watch the games in the few years.



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If you went to three games and sold the other five games for double the face value, that would net you $2,000 per year, you'd eventually make your PSL money back. How much would you get by selling to StubHub or whereever? If you've been waiting 20 years for the tickets I think you should get them.

ChadTower:

Can't speak for the Giants but I know that violates the Season Ticket Contract for the Patriots.  You can only sell ANY tickets on their dedicated forum that for some reason is only open to season ticket holders.  If you get caught doing it any other way they yank your season tickets.  If you even GIVE your tickets away, and the person gets ejected, they yank your season tickets.  They make it pretty much so you can only GIVE your tickets away to someone you absolutely trust to not get your season tickets revoked.  And yes, they are very very aggressive about finding people who violate the contract.

RayB:
You could always put the kids up for adoption. That will free up some space.

shardian:
My opinion: Great location + great neighbors + great town > gameroom.

javeryh:

--- Quote from: LLUncoolJ on February 10, 2010, 03:42:12 pm ---There should be a way to divert the water from your basement, but you will have to dig around the house and put in drainage tile, plus you need a place to dump or pump it. The low ceilings are a bigger problem. I don't know if it is possible to dig it out except by hand, leaving the only other option: jack the hose up and build up the foundation and setthe house back.

As far as an addition, a .13 acre lot doesn't leave you much space. Keep in mind, if you build a larger basement than main floor, you are going to have troubles with water leaking, unless you build a ground level roof (which would look silly). I'm afraid your best bet is to move. Either sacrifice living in town or shell out the big bucks.

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I have looked into jacking up the house but that is also very expensive.  Ideally I'd like to jack up the house AND add the addition so I'd have one giant basement area but without doing any research I know it will cost too much.  There has to be a way to put a concrete box underground without a traditional roof on top.  I was thinking about sinking it a few feet below ground level and covering it with some stones for drainage - the top of the concrete box would have to be sloped to deal with the water flow but this seems doable to me (based on not knowing anything about anything  ;D).


--- Quote from: Cakemeister on February 11, 2010, 02:50:56 pm ---If you went to three games and sold the other five games for double the face value, that would net you $2,000 per year, you'd eventually make your PSL money back. How much would you get by selling to StubHub or whereever? If you've been waiting 20 years for the tickets I think you should get them.

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I thought about this but each ticket is $400 face value (so $800 for a pair x 10 games with the two preseason games they force on you = $8,000/year).  No one is going to want to pay $1,600 to go to a Giants game.  It's just too expensive.  I don't know how enough people can afford these prices to fill the stadium. 


--- Quote from: ChadTower on February 11, 2010, 02:59:16 pm ---Can't speak for the Giants but I know that violates the Season Ticket Contract for the Patriots.  You can only sell ANY tickets on their dedicated forum that for some reason is only open to season ticket holders.  If you get caught doing it any other way they yank your season tickets.  If you even GIVE your tickets away, and the person gets ejected, they yank your season tickets.  They make it pretty much so you can only GIVE your tickets away to someone you absolutely trust to not get your season tickets revoked.  And yes, they are very very aggressive about finding people who violate the contract.
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The Giants have the same policy.  Two years ago they revoked a bunch of season tickets for their guests throwing snowballs onto the field.


--- Quote from: RayB on February 11, 2010, 03:13:41 pm ---You could always put the kids up for adoption. That will free up some space.


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Due to the layout of my house, I'd still need an addition with or without the kids and since those little buggers have grown on me I think I'll keep them!


--- Quote from: shardian on February 11, 2010, 04:36:18 pm ---My opinion: Great location + great neighbors + great town > gameroom.

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Ugh.  Not what I wanted to hear even though this is a really good answer and deep down I think I feel this way too. 

I started tinkering around in SketchUp - it is confusing but I have the first floor of my house laid out (sort of).  I'm going to mess around and see how much room I'll really need to get what I want...

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