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| Havok:
--- Quote from: rlehm on February 08, 2010, 12:40:25 pm --- --- Quote from: AndyWarne on February 08, 2010, 10:54:55 am --- Using a W-G D9800 at VGA-only resolutions is a huge waste because these monitors are designed (expensively) to be able to run at standard resolution (15Khz) and 25 and 31 Khz (VGA) as well. So you might as well buy a VGA monitor if you are not using the D9800 at anything other than VGA resolutions. --- End quote --- I do not understand your answer. When you say I might as well buy a vga monitor I get confused. The D9800 is a vga monitor. What 27" monitor do you suggest with your card? --- End quote --- Computer VGA monitors typically don't go lower than 60Hz refresh, which isn't low enough for true arcade monitors, which are typically 15 or 25 or 31Hz. What he is saying is that if you are only going to run at Windows resolutions with higher refresh rates, save your money and buy a cheaper monitor or tv. The main reason to get a D9800 is to run at the same resolution and refresh rate of an arcade monitor from the good old days. Yes, it will run windows resolutions (lower ones at least), that's not the main reason to use one. And to address your other question about cards from local stores; no - most if not all of the cards will not run (natively) a refresh rate lower than 60Hz, which kind of defeats the purpose of again having a D9800 |
| AndyWarne:
Just to correct above: Its not the vertical refresh rate of 60Hz thats the issue. Its horizontal refresh which on a VGA picture is 31Khz but standard resolution arcade monitor is 15Khz. The D9800, or equivalent multi-frequency monitor is the perfect monitor for use with the ArcadeVGA card. |
| UberCade:
--- Quote from: AndyWarne on February 08, 2010, 01:08:45 pm ---The D9800, or equivalent multi-frequency monitor is the perfect monitor for use with the ArcadeVGA card. --- End quote --- Yeah basically the issue is if you're going to spend the money on a D9800 or other tri-sync arcade monitor, you will only be wasting your money if you don't have the proper hardware to support native arcade resolutions and refresh rates. In other words, if you use a standard graphics card with a D9800, you will only be able to output a 31 KHz 640x480 resolution (or 800x600, not sure what the D9800 supports) and all arcade games that were designed to run at 15 KHz or 25 KHz at lower resolutions will not look as good as if you were outputting a true 15 KHz or 25 KHz signal. What he's saying is if you're going to buy a standard graphics card, don't bother spending the money on an arcade monitor because the extended features of it will be wasted unless you use an ArcadeVGA card which CAN output 15 Khz and 25 KHz signals, as well as the 31 KHz mode the standard Windows desktop uses. It's plug-n-play simplicity and will make the most of an arcade monitor, and the price is VERY reasonable for what you get. I'd still buy it if it cost twice as much. Also you're overlooking one very important fact regarding emulation, MAME in particular. A high-end video card will do NOTHING to improve MAME emulation, because MAME games are emulated completely by the CPU - game hardware, video, audio, controls and all. The only reason you would want to use a high-end graphics card is if you also wanted to play PC games, in which case you wouldn't want an arcade monitor for that anyway because of its limited resolution support. Bottom line, if you're going to buy an arcade monitor, buy an ArcadeVGA. |
| FrizzleFried:
Well Andy, If you do come out with XP x64 support I'll buy one... if not, I won't... :D |
| joeH:
I still don't understand what the obsession is about hanging onto a 9 year old OS... XP was great for it's time...but XP64 was so horribly under-supported. I thought Vista was a step up (used since beta), and never had one issue with it. I really think it received a lot of bad press for nothing. I've been using 7 since beta as well and found it to be absolutely fantastic to work with. Good to hear about the new card. My MAME machine is still a 2.4 P4, with the original AGP card. Whenever I replace my desktop, the C2D 8400 will take it's spot, and I'll need a new PCI-x card to go with it. Keep up the good work! |
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