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Popcorrin:

--- Quote from: shateredsoul on February 10, 2010, 02:58:05 am ---
Thanks for yoru feedback popcorrin! Any advice for setting it up with mame? A thread you used maybe?

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I never did find a good thread or guide to setting it up with mame.  Just took some trial and error. 
I had a trackball and 2 lightguns and the most frustrating part was the mouse devices reordering themselves.  You would get everything set up and then after a reboot it wouldn't work.  Keeping everything plugged into the same usb ports helps but it doesn't eliminate the issue.

I searched for a utility that would let you number your mouse devices but as far as I know it doesn't exist.  I did find one for joysticks but nothing for mice.

Anyway, if you have questions as you try to set them up, post them here and I will try to help.
ark_ader:
It works for my PC/Xbox solution.

A pain to set up but once you have it working it is fine.

You do need standing room distance from the LCD/Projector/CRT.
shateredsoul:
So I finally had a chance to set up my topgun lightguns.  I didn't have as much time as I would like to test out the equilibration so keep that in mind.

I installed my lcd topgun II on a windows 7 64 bit desktop computer.  It took a while to set up but here's a guide http://maximizedemulation.wordpress.com/2010/02/15/how-to-install-topgun-ii-drivers-on-windows-7-64bit/ Honestly, setting them up was a pain in the butt.  I couldn't figure out how to do it at first, but once it was figured out and installed everything was fine.

I set up the bars on the left and right of the television.  Calibrating seemed to be the hardest.  I followed the instructions, but it always seemed like the calibration was off when compared to where the laser was pointing and the mouse cursor on the desktop.  When I pointed the gun the pointer (the mouse pointer) would follow right behind.  According to this post http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=92986.0, this is normal and as soon as you pull the trigger it updates instantly.  I didn't get to try this as I found this post right after testing.. the lag between the pointer and laser threw me off and made it very hard to navigate so maybe turning of the laser would help.

I also noticed that I had to be pretty far from the tv, I couldn't play while sitting on the couch so I had to move behind my couch to have some accuracy (about 7 feet away!).  I do wonder though... I had the bars settup flush with the monitor, if I had them sticking out a bit and maybe tilted in.. would that help? Something to try for next time.

House of the dead 1 - Same thing, the pointer in the game would always follow behind my movements.. and it was always off by an inch.  Further calibration and testing may fix this.

Mame- setting up mame was annoying at first but after I want to mame.ini and changed lightgun from 0 to 1 and within the mame front end I enabled multiple mice, it worked fine.  Still, the aiming was a little off. Same experience as house for dead two and the desktop.

So keep that in mind

The drivers are beta drivers, so they may improve on them and may be different if you are using windows xp (since you can use the original driver)

Installing it and getting the gun recognized did take some work, but nothing impossible here or too technical

further calibration may make the gun have better aim


Hewskie:
Great to hear you got it up and running, I have a little advice for the calibration issues. When shooting the corners of the screen, I found that it helps if you aim a half inch off the corner away from the centre of the tv. I'll try to make a diagram:

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  |                                                     |
  |                                                     |
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x                                                         x

Doing this with trial and error really helped the accuracy on my setup.

Good luck!

Hewskie
shateredsoul:
Thanks Hewskie, initially I just set up the sensor bars without consider which one was on the left or right

I switched them to match the pictures provided with the light guns and that helped a bit.

I'll be sure to try your trick, I took them down for now.  I'm waiting on my control panel, so maybe i'll just wait until I have the whole setup and the actual screen I will be using. It's a pain to have to take the bars down and put them back on.

I do have one question though, how did you get them to stick onto your monitor? or cab? For testing I just used electrical tape.  When I finally mount them I'd like them to be on there pretty firmly but not permanently in case I need to move them.

-shatered
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